Again, we agree more than you think. But what you did is not correct. You and many other may not like Kralizec opinion but only reading the posts in this forum there is no reason to ban them as you did.

Anyway, trying to confront "what I THINK is right" (my point of view) versus "what IS right" (your point of view) is unfair. What leads me to a simple conclusion: as this is your forum you rule it for your own purposes. Which is correct, but do not say you do it for the sake of the MSX community.

So: thanks for letting me see the truth behind Karoshi's forums.


We should evolve. Now that there are more experienced developers, we should increase the quality standards and demand more quality in games.

If I have been in any help to make you see some things more clear, I'm more than happy!



I really love your vehemence on helping us to know what in your opinion is right and what do you think we should do! It is pretty enthusiastic from you and really inspiring!

People who want an evolution can, of course, lead the evolution by themselves: those wanting highest quality standards, higher specs, etc. The fact is that the MSXdev is an active development contest with its spirit and history behind, and it seems that is somehow easier to try to modify it, change its spirit, or spoil it, than trying to make a brand new contest or development space by themselves. So I agree with you on that some people could want a contest this or that way: for those, ok, go ahead and make it. I will be eager to participate! ;-).

Not at all . If you don't like an stablished contest as it is, perhaps its not for you: is it really that hard to see?

If you don't like the oscars, prolly you'll like another events. If you don't like football and prefer basketball, will you try to change football concepts? If you don't want Oreos, would you try to change their flavor to your favourite cookie them to fit your taste?



On which particular statement?

Congratulations to Nerlaska. PRETTY KINGDOM It's a good game and (a few of ) us have recognized so.

About Destroyer:

First of all my apologizes. I'll never use hybrid modes anymore for games ... just because i'll not code any other game. I hate to be polemic and prefer to be clear regarding seriuos matters. Anyway this is not too serious for me. This is not my bussines and only enjoy coding small progs and music  altough I'm not game coder nor musician. Also anyone cannot develop a game. I'm one of them.

Qualified as a game:

- With no music Sure???
- Not Standad (33% OK)
- Too hard sure??
- Rubbernecking / My TV is very big...

I've noticed that many of the aswers to the contest are related to voting process an most of them comes from people that has no other post before. So no interest in games nor developement, isn't it?

I accept critics, not snubs. If you dislike the way I've used my MSXs (where I made my tests) and for you that means the whole work deserve to be void please, explain your reasons. I'll be gratefull if that could be done in constructive way. Two of my three MSX run Destoyer perfectly, my dear Toshiba HX20 don't. Yes, rules says "MSX compliance". Ok... then the game must be disqualified. Agree with this.


Jon Cortázar:

I think that he acts as forum/contest admin. He explained his reasons and I've not more to say. Agree with this.

Contest itself:

Nice! really intersting to see how Artrag has develop that ultra fast scroll for Uridium, perharps trying to improve Genesis Dawn of a new Day.  Jon Cortazar's Mr. Cracksman is a pleasure graphic. Nerlaska's Pretty kingdom is really pretty., Zero shows us VDP tricks most of us probably have never seen....

And sorry, I've not voted because I've not play all the games 100%, no time for check the code tricks nor endings and other stuff. I cannot qualify your work if I've not seen before.

I can't recognize those two particular quotes with the word "ban" and the sentence "if you don't like the contest rules or my opinions", but perhaps it is just me that I can't find those. Can you please link them to me? Thnx in advance!

Anyway, if it is about the post in the voting thread, the whole text is supported by Karoshi MSX Community administrators, that is pitpan and me, who are responsible of the organization of the MSXdev contests. Hope this helps!

MrSpock : do you have really examined the way that Kralizec has voted ? I've mentioned 2 reasons why this vote seems me unfair. These reasons 'explain' only why there is no any game in this vote with a score above 6.75 (comparison with Konami games) and why 2 games (Destroyer and Zero) get only 1 point (Toshiba VDP compatibility). With some good will, I can understand the 1 point for the 'experimental' games of Nitrofurano. But what about the 1 point for 3 other games, including the winner ? ....

Ok, now I think you have been specific enough!


Those sentences are me anwering questions to you, aren't they? And I really agree on them! As MSX developer and user and as Karoshi MSX Community Admin!
- Yes, if some people want to make a contest with some particular specs and rules, it is free to do it.
- Yes, if you don't like a contest as it is concepted, perhaps you should consider if it is for you or not.
- Yes, I really think you state clearly your opinions and thoughts about what's right, although it is obvious that differ with mine. And that's not something bad!



Again, as I've said before, the whole text of the voting thread "is supported by Karoshi MSX Community administrators, that is pitpan and me, who are responsible of the organization of the MSXdev contests". No problem to remark it anytime you need it!



I read your (and everyone's) text really carefuly. I am not the one entering flames or having misunderstandings because of fast reading: indeed, I prefer to read every coment and react to them as precisely as I can. And, *again*, you think there have been an overreaction from me, when acting as part of the MSXdev organization, on the fact of skipping the votes from Kralizec into the contest. I understand that: and again, please understand that I disagree with you in that, and that I really think a post like that was needed in that situation.

Anyway, we can keep like this forever, if you want. But I'm really starting to feel as our conversation leads to no place...