Ramones .. I love you too XD (and I'll take you at any RU by band :-) )

And all the people in this forum .. thank you for your support and for your congratulations.

The winner are all the MSX users here and this must be the spirit.
My goal is create a Konami MegaROM and see Armando tears of emotion but Jon is the culprit because he doesn't let me to exceeds the 32Kb XD

Jokes apart...

I hope MSXdev forum Karoshi and have clarified the controversies with those who have displeased.
We have to look to the future and is currently MSXdev the contest more titles harvest. And we know there are more competitions, there will be something good in this.
Thank you Jon (and PitPan in the shadows)

And the power that has been given me .. I HAVE THE POWER! XD

I apologize beforehand for throwing fuel on the fire here, but I think this is too important to ignore. Personally, I'd like to stay neutral on the matter even though I have my opinions. This is an objective observation.
I was curious why Artrag was so upset about the banning of Ramones's vote, it seemed like an exaggeration. Then I had a look at the global ratings for clues.


Both have 20 votes total.
Pretty Kingdom: 8.0775
Uridium: 7.8575

Ramones banned vote:
Pretty Kingdom: 1
Uridium: 6.75

Result including Ramones:
Pretty Kingdom: 7.74
Uridium: 7.80

I'm a bit late but...

First of all, congrats to Nerlaska for winning the contest
 
About all the other stuff already commented, just my point of view:

I think invalidating Ramones/Kralizec votes wasn't a good choice. Anybody can agree or not with them, but what is not fair is invalidating them because they are not "nice". Once you give people the right to vote, you do it with all the consequences.

What it's important after all, much more than numbers (which can lead to (un)fair comparisons), is making a ranking to decide which is the best entry for most of the people... so, maybe it's a better idea, to skip numeric scores and just provide an ordered list for all games. It just gives a clear list of people preferences about all contest entries. Besides that, only the games themselves have to be considered to cast the votes, not the efforts nor the authors.

If the organization had disqualified non fully compatible entries (as it's stated at the rules), all this mess wouldn't have happened at all. The same happens with incomplete/beta entries... although the authors think they are supporting the contest by presenting them at all means, I personally think that those entries harm contest reputation. I also understand that saying this edition has finished with 10 entries is cooler than 5, of course... but I think it's better to finish them properly (needless to say that next competition would start with 5 complete games instead of 0).

I agree with being positive... but also with being critical, so that we can get better and better games in the future.

Mars, you keep talking about respect about others and their work, but at the same time you keep on pushing against Ramones/Kralizec, again and again... you both think different about the quality of MSXDev games (and MSX in general, for sure), that's it... it really seems it's you who hates him/them. I think we should be respectful before claiming for respect.

Have you been forced? really? 

Anyway, I was not talking about just your previous post... and not only about your posts here at Karoshi.

You said you wouldn't vote and you didn't... that's being consistent... what I don't understand is why you (like other people) decided not to vote from the beginning. How that helps the contest??

For myself looking from the outside, the problem is obvious.

People takes too seriously the harsh comments from some people known for making harsh comments. The course of action should be the same as ever in forums "don't feed the troll"

Given that there is people trying to sabotage what they doesn't like, it was a big mistake to not have judges.

What Ramones did was incredibly unpolite and harsh, but he has the right to vote because the contest allows it.

Secondly, the contest explicitely says TMS9918/9928 video processor or compatible, so if the entries doesn't work in Toshiba VDP, this is implicitely allowed by the contest.

Thirdly, exercising an entry for full MSX compatibility in a non-commercial contest like this one simply puts too much burden in new developers, and it's harsh to demand full compatibility with some obscure machine. THIS IS NOT THE ACID TEST! it's simply a contest for fun! don't let us lose these new developers just because one or two people.

Myself I'll write a new MSX game very soon (well as soon as I've free time), just for the sake of fun

+1

We already discussed about the tms9918 in this thread not long ago.

I also mentioned some weeks ago I would use the mix mode and no one said anything.

Now everyone is complaining and voting 1 for some games which used this feature of the tms9918.

Again: coders spend a loooooooot of time in these games and this year we didn't get many feedback: feedback is what motivates us to keep doing games. Instead of appreciating our dedication of coding games for you all, some people look for the mistakes, problems, controvertial points and cast their votes or make their comments just (mostly) taking this into account.

I am not a big company, I don't have a team working for me the whole day, the whole week, the whole month, the whole year. I don't have the resources a big company has. I live in a flat, stand up at 6:00 for going to work, and when I come home I keep coding a game for you (and for me). This means also weekends closed in my flat just coding, drawing, etc ... And I got twice 1 point. Hahahahaha. I laughed at first and didn't want to say anything at all but I'm getting tired of this behaviour and the same problems in the forum as always.

I also read in another forum that my game stinks and more nice things like this one. I can understand many people don't like my game(s) and it is something totally normal. I understand that if people don't like my game, they cast a "low" vote, obviously. But, what I find childish is the way some people comment a game, or how people have complaint about the tms9918 features used in some games.

If you take into account the rules, you can vote 1 for every game, if you want to. But that's very poor for someone to do. I can understand a 4, a 5, a 6 ... but 1 point ... please. I am good with the 4th position.

I don't know if you realize what these few people do to the MSX community.

I left the MRC community because of these people who just cause this damage, right after the Kralizec incident, as comradeship.

I repeat it: I can understand a low punctuation if you don't like a game. I accept the critics, when they are constructive.

Well, I don't want to read always the same people discussing things like they had the only truth. And I don't want to code games for people who don't appreciate my effort.

Code your games yourselves. Bye.