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« : 07 de Abril de 2007, 02:36:16 pm »

Does not work, appear to be offline...
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« Respuesta #1 : 07 de Abril de 2007, 03:01:00 pm »

Dunno, prolly maintenance or something. Last week there was a mailbomb. I wouldn't worry about it.  Cheesy
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« Respuesta #2 : 07 de Abril de 2007, 06:42:56 pm »

Here 2 good alternatives to MRC :

http://www.msxposse.com

http://www.passionmsx.org

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« Respuesta #3 : 07 de Abril de 2007, 08:12:25 pm »

yea sure..  Undecided

"where FUD, disrespect and bad taste is born"

otoh, what do I care about a handful o' loonies
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« Respuesta #4 : 08 de Abril de 2007, 06:35:38 pm »

Better a loony than a brainwashed propaganda-lover.
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« Respuesta #5 : 08 de Abril de 2007, 08:24:49 pm »

yea sure..  Undecided
"where FUD, disrespect and bad taste is born"
otoh, what do I care about a handful o' loonies

Read again, Wolfie. mars2000you offered 2 links to SEPPASEPPA as an alternative to MRC when he noticed MRC was down, but he did not mention a thing about MRC: that's why I don't see the point of you attacking posse or passion. Yeah, these are MSX communities too, as Karoshi forums are (there can be more than one, you know  Tongue ). So please don't try to start a fight here, as mars2000you did not started a thing, ok?.
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« Respuesta #6 : 08 de Abril de 2007, 08:53:36 pm »

So, you mean I've been saying things about those websites which aren't true?  Grin
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« Respuesta #7 : 08 de Abril de 2007, 08:59:23 pm »

So, you mean I've been saying things about those websites which aren't true?  Grin

MSX Posse and Passion MSX are nice communities, each one with its points of view and filosophy. It is in comments like the last you posted where FUD, disrespect and bad taste can be easily found Tongue. Is there really a point to react like you did?. Man, it was just one person givin' alternative links for MSX news and such! :whip:
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« Respuesta #8 : 08 de Abril de 2007, 09:02:28 pm »

I want a straight answer: "yes" or "no", not a whole story.

So, again: "So, you mean I've been saying things about those websites which aren't true?"
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« Respuesta #9 : 08 de Abril de 2007, 09:10:55 pm »

As I've said, yeah, they are nice communities so I think that what you've said is not the truth. It is just your opinion. I don't agree with some msxposse or passion msx reactions, opinions and comments, just as I don't like some others at the MRC: and that does not mean that I think those communities are based on disrespect or bad taste. If you don't like posse or passion and the opinions in there, just live with it, but *again* do not start the flame just when some URLs are suggested (hint=that's not polite).
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« Respuesta #10 : 08 de Abril de 2007, 10:03:16 pm »

so, if that's a 'yes' then here's what I was aiming for: (and I try not to flame, really)

If my text is seen as untrue, then I could also mention a few ppl who deliberately yell untrue things about MRC. Such as the endless linking to Bazix. I could mention a mars posting that DRM bull on 2 places on each forum (news and forum), hoping no-one will miss it. (who was talking about propaganda now eh!)

Dudes, I'm *not* part of Bazix, another 11 MRC webmasters/translators aren't either. And it'll be a matter of time and snout is the only MRC admin who's also part of Bazix. He can't leave MRC for obvious reasons: it's mainly his site anyway, he's the most routined newsharvester from all of us.
*If* the ppl I mentioned *stop* their bull towards MRC (and I'm not asking you ppl to *like* MRC if you don't) then I will stop outputting bull about the two mentioned websites. If the typical "MRC/Bazix/Snout" expressions/combinations don't go away from now on, then that makes me fully entitled to say whatever I want to say about Posse & PassionMSX or individual persons, anywhere I want, in any under-the-belt style I see fit. I think that's actually a reasonable trade to consider, not that this trade had to be here in the first place, but judging the situation I'd say a trade is the most reasonable solution at this moment.

So, I'm again *not* asking you to:
- like MRC
- like Bazix
- like Woomb
- like the concept of virtual MSX (which summarizes having games in this new Woomb format, you know what I mean, do you?)

Face it: we've become to not like you, and for quite a while you don't seem to like us. Well, inside MRC no one cares a f*ck, really.

The only things I'm asking, as reasonable as I can, is to:
- 'leave it' if you don't 'love it', and don't try to break things or hurt personal feelings (no need to explain that here eh), no-one gains anything with it. No one is forcing you to buy woomb games if you don't like the way they're presented. And if you want an English Xak1 on your MSX, then gain a license from Microcabin and do it yourself.
- divide MRC and Bazix. I know it's in vogue lately to think that they're the same, and I can't come up with a way to convince you they're not, but they're not. Who are you to think they are linked anyway?

This trade proposal can't be too bad, right? (Especially in the light of surrounding people in the MSX-scene who don't care a hoot either about the whole feud.)

So, what will the answer be? Burying or sharpening the axe?


Oh, and if someone doesn't agree on any of the ingredients of the issue: don't yell and don't give me empty words. Give me facts I can test/balance, not unfounded assumptions and other weird nothingness no single soul can interpret. This forum has one particular thread like that already, and that should be enough.


viejo: this story was not aimed at you or this forum, but I was more or less opting for these replies (so yes: I abused your casa a bit). If you want to spam me some more about this, you know where to catch me. Tongue
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« Respuesta #11 : 08 de Abril de 2007, 10:34:53 pm »

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I could mention a mars posting that DRM bull on 2 places on each forum (news and forum), hoping no-one will miss it. (who was talking about propaganda now eh!)

So, Apple boss and EMI boss are not respectable people for you Huh

But of course, their strategy is very annoying for all DRM "fans", including Bazix. And the fact that as MRC moderator, you consider these news as bullshit is another proof that MRC=Bazix.

I won't answer for the rest as it is the usual MRC bullshit. Sorry, but since you are MRC moderator, you think only by Snout's mind ! What a pity !  Cry
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« Respuesta #12 : 08 de Abril de 2007, 10:58:02 pm »

But of course you aren't going to answer anything, that would've been the event of the millennium.
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« Respuesta #13 : 08 de Abril de 2007, 11:04:17 pm »

And I was not talking EMI or Apple anyway, I was talking about this:

"Such events should incite MRC/Bazix/Woomb to remove DRM from the Woomb products (re-releases for PC of MSX games, eventually translated in English) ! It should be a real sign of respect for the wishes of the MSX community."

1 - read my post above about the linking of MRC and Bazix.
2- who are you to decide what a company should do? Do you show any respect to that? Do you show any respect to Compile, Microcabin, T&E etc. etc. who wish to re-release these games in this format? Go complain in Japan @ the door of MSXA.
3 - "the MSX community"? You think are you speaking on behalf of everyone and their mother?
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« Respuesta #14 : 08 de Abril de 2007, 11:09:04 pm »

so, if that's a 'yes' then here's what I was aiming for: (and I try not to flame, really)
If my text is seen as untrue, then I could also mention a few ppl who deliberately yell untrue things about MRC. Such as the endless linking to Bazix. I could mention a mars posting that DRM bull on 2 places on each forum (news and forum), hoping no-one will miss it. (who was talking about propaganda now eh!)
Dudes, I'm *not* part of Bazix, another 11 MRC webmasters/translators aren't either. And it'll be a matter of time and snout is the only MRC admin who's also part of Bazix. He can't leave MRC for obvious reasons: it's mainly his site anyway, he's the most routined newsharvester from all of us.
*If* the ppl I mentioned *stop* their bull towards MRC (and I'm not asking you ppl to *like* MRC if you don't) then I will stop outputting bull about the two mentioned websites. If the typical "MRC/Bazix/Snout" expressions/combinations don't go away from now on, then that makes me fully entitled to say whatever I want to say about Posse & PassionMSX or individual persons, anywhere I want, in any under-the-belt style I see fit. I think that's actually a reasonable trade to consider, not that this trade had to be here in the first place, but judging the situation I'd say a trade is the most reasonable solution at this moment.
So, I'm again *not* asking you to:
- like MRC
- like Bazix
- like Woomb
- like the concept of virtual MSX (which summarizes having games in this new Woomb format, you know what I mean, do you?)
Face it: we've become to not like you, and for quite a while you don't seem to like us. Well, inside MRC no one cares a f*ck, really.
The only things I'm asking, as reasonable as I can, is to:
- 'leave it' if you don't 'love it', and don't try to break things or hurt personal feelings (no need to explain that here eh), no-one gains anything with it. No one is forcing you to buy woomb games if you don't like the way they're presented. And if you want an English Xak1 on your MSX, then gain a license from Microcabin and do it yourself.
- divide MRC and Bazix. I know it's in vogue lately to think that they're the same, and I can't come up with a way to convince you they're not, but they're not. Who are you to think they are linked anyway?
This trade proposal can't be too bad, right? (Especially in the light of surrounding people in the MSX-scene who don't care a hoot either about the whole feud.)
So, what will the answer be? Burying or sharpening the axe?
Oh, and if someone doesn't agree on any of the ingredients of the issue: don't yell and don't give me empty words. Give me facts I can test/balance, not unfounded assumptions and other weird nothingness no single soul can interpret. This forum has one particular thread like that already, and that should be enough.
viejo: this story was not aimed at you or this forum, but I was more or less opting for these replies (so yes: I abused your casa a bit). If you want to spam me some more about this, you know where to catch me. Tongue

Too big story to finally make that big post for mars Wink... imho you should solve this privately, but hey!, it is up to both of you to keep the discussion here. But keep in mind that if you discuss your MRC/passion/bazix/mars/wolfie/bananas troubles here, please keep it polite, or I will be forced to throw you a huge amount of olives.

mars2000you & Wolf_ > Spank < viejo_archivero

Anyway, have fun!. Now I'll enjoy my last holiday night! Wink. Gnite all, and remember that we are here just for fun! (or, at least, me)
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