The only shadow that I can think of is that perhaps some people will mix Patriek's opinions with MSXdev'05 organisation's opinions. Some other people will think that Guyver's comments about the games is not impartial because other comments are perhaps a bit more subjective.

But once again, as organizer, all that I can say is that I asked Patriek to be the juror and he accepted. As organizer, I cannot change a single word of Guyver's review. He is the only responsible for his words and I want to publicly thank him for his help: he has done a huge effort and invested a considerable amount of time playing and analysing all the games. Of course, opinions belong to individuals and some people won't share Patriek's point of view.

Please note that I would have prefered to avoid problems - but I prefer to face any further problems rather than breaking my promise of full independence and freedom for the juror.

Some words from me:

Unless MSX(-themed) competitions are judged by true outsiders we will never get impartial/unbiased results. Problem there is: do outsiders actually give a fuck about a 20 years old computer standard?

(please add '' where appropiate)

somehow the hands are itching to react

Reactions to things:

MSXDev'05 > good .. apparantely we had lot of fun squeezing the last atom from the system, and me going a step back regarding artwork (normally I'm used to opl4/msx2/lotsaRAM etc.) was refreshing/educative..

Guyv being the jury > good .. prolly the best choice since he knows a lot about code, and enough about the other game-related ingredients. No complaints.

Guyv using the report to dig-up issues that are to be solved in private > not smart, really the only one who could possibily be affected by that is no-one else but you, and you alone.

Pitpan not moderating that > To say the least: I would've moderated it .. but that's all imho. Regardless of the contents and the whoisright, it's not the place for a gamecompojuryreport (Scrabble!) to vent it all there..  the golden rule: 'to keep private and business seperated'.


Guyv right here I'm writing, not as the #2 poster @ MRC, not as OP of 'the other channel', not as the 'brainwashed traitor who left #msxdev', (all 3 reasons to make me look suspicious towards you) but as the older wolf_ from, say, 1..1.5 year ago, when we had tons o' good talks on development, games and stuff.. (remember that I also was (or still am? ) #2 #msxdev writer.). Because with regards to this challenge, it's a bit like that again. Actually, some week ago I thought about just querying you.. just to ask around a bit how things were going.. perhaps things changed? cooled down? I dunno .. However I decided to wait until after the jury-report .. didn't want to run the risk of being accused for upsucking @ the jury. ^_^

btw, Regarding the game-related report .. I think I can agree with the result .. UU would've been nice competition for TC if it was actually finished and balanced... time.. time.. planning.. next year STAR strikes back for sure!

Anyway.. I kinda was expecting things to have cooled down, or at least 'put away'. I found it kinda surprising to see that 'MRC-part' in that jury-report.. somehow I expected you not to have made peace again with (in the end, only a handful of members of) MRC, but perhaps things had been put away in the 'endless discussion, hence no use'-bin. But apparently it's still on the desk.. And then the language itself.. well seriously .. it's as if nothing changed in this last halfyear. Well, 'as if' .. actually.. just nothing changed.

Do yourself a favour and let it go. Others can live with it.. kinda.. for outsiders it's the regular freakshow, grab the chair, the chips, the coke, and watch the soap. Let it go, do it purely for yourself..


ok .. I think I've made decent/civilised English here .. do me a favour if you want to react: use the same style ..

time to [post] ..

ok.. list them all then .. I want to see the list .. you talk about 'the continuous lies' .. let's show 'em ..


You're also nearly forgotten @ MRC/forum for that matter.. it's not like ppl keep argueing about the issues forever..


where? how often? do you have recent links?

yes... how mature ..

 

Come on , t00b, don't play so naive !

You know exactly what about I speak, just before GuyveR800 banishment.

This kind of question is just a fake question. Don't play again this game, you are not credible when making that.

As you don't answer to my last private message, the discussion is closed.

As you play naive game, communication is impossible.

Adios !