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Título: Jack The Nipper and Krak-Out!
Publicado por: mäsäxi en 27 de Mayo de 2007, 07:07:28 pm
How about these?

Both were my favourite games and I still play both sometimes.

But they are another nice MSX games which lack moody in-game music (again!) and I always wished for some sprites to color up Jack The Nipper´s software sprites...  and why the hell they didn´t used any sprites in Krak-Out?! (answer: lazyness and greediness...) Imagine Krak-out in SCREEN 2!!!  Original MSX Krak-Out! is very quiet game except "pings" of ball hitting the walls and quiet "crash" when Jack The Nipper-head dies and some others... Imagine there could be new tune for each screen!!!!! Commodore Krak-Out has MANY ingame tunes comparing to MSX´s NONE! (Gremlin did it once again...)  And Jack the Nipper is even quieter..... >:(

Both games get instantly hellishly better when they get in game music(s)!

Jack The Nipper just needs some color spots here and there... (plus sprites too...) Krak-Out needs little more work... by the way... if someone tries commodore Jack The Nipper, there ain´t no in-game music until you find Walkman... ;)

I guess I am not the only one who liked to play nasty little boy in Jack The Nipper when I was a nipper... ;D


Título: Re: Jack The Nipper and Krak-Out!
Publicado por: mäsäxi en 27 de Mayo de 2007, 07:51:59 pm
What I was thinking about was to give just one sprite for each human´s head to give them skincolor, and that´s it. On commodore, when you shot someone with peashooter, their faces turned RED as they get angry, it was a pity to see there wasn´t such little neat thing on MSX version... they just chased you... little things make great game... imagine boulderdash where rockford doesn´t wink her eyes or can´t tap her feet....

Of course other creatures could have one sprite also...


Título: Re: Jack The Nipper and Krak-Out!
Publicado por: Dioniso en 27 de Mayo de 2007, 08:28:27 pm
Imagine Krak-out in SCREEN 2!!!

I did something "long ago" ... i finished the graphics and all the ideas about it were written on paper ... if I just weren't so lazy ... But it's one of my 3 next projects:

Old screen capture (December 2005):

(http://www.geocities.com/dioniso072/krakonia.png)


Título: Re: Jack The Nipper and Krak-Out!
Publicado por: Konamito en 28 de Mayo de 2007, 03:06:53 pm
I want to see more, Dioniso!!! :P

Krakout is one of my favourite MSX games ever! I reached level 45 on my MSX 17 years ago on my MSX2, but finally two months ago I finished it on blueMSX ;)

I also played Jack the Nipper. The idea of the game was interesting but the game it's a little bit crappy :(

I'd like to see those games in a "real" MSX version.


Título: Re: Jack The Nipper and Krak-Out!
Publicado por: Dioniso en 28 de Mayo de 2007, 05:47:42 pm
I want to see more, Dioniso!!! :P

Pues es el último proyecto de los que tengo en mente, pero lo haré ... tiempo.


Título: Re: Jack The Nipper and Krak-Out!
Publicado por: mäsäxi en 29 de Mayo de 2007, 04:54:32 pm
Nice to hear someone has thought about making Krak-Out klone! ;) I hope you beat up your laziness soon dioniso and get your krakonia ready! :D

I played through all 100 levels of  Krak-Out! in 1988, as I got it in February 1988 I think. :) I think I "finished" it twice... I said "finished" as it loops again to round 1 after screen 100.

Must say it was quite a quiet moment of playing... how I wished for some MUSIC all the time...


I also played Jack the Nipper. The idea of the game was interesting but the game it's a little bit crappy :(

Konamito, do you mean Jack The Nipper is graphically bit crappy or do ya mean gameplay needs something to boost it up!?

I think there could be few more nice touches in Jack The Nipper... like more objects to break... ;D Writing to the walls could be nice touch too!!! :D  I always liked to write dirty words to chalkboards in "School Daze" while there were no-one in classes watching what the hell I am doing! ;D And it can´t be too hard thing to add.


Título: Re: Jack The Nipper and Krak-Out!
Publicado por: Konamito en 29 de Mayo de 2007, 11:26:37 pm
Must say it was quite a quiet moment of playing... how I wished for some MUSIC all the time...

At least the music at the main menu is very good!

I also played Jack the Nipper. The idea of the game was interesting but the game it's a little bit crappy :(

Cita de: mäsäxi
Konamito, do you mean Jack The Nipper is graphically bit crappy or do ya mean gameplay needs something to boost it up!?

I meant the gameplay ;) The game needs more things to do and easier to know.


Título: Re: Jack The Nipper and Krak-Out!
Publicado por: mäsäxi en 30 de Mayo de 2007, 01:21:37 pm
Well... there are plenty puzzles easy enough to solve in Jack The Nipper, but then there are objects which are impossible to guess what they are even they all are mentioned in manual...

And yes, Krak-Out!´s title tune is really nice... I still like it much! Hope they would have been sensible enough to pay more to Ben Daglish to convert ALL c64-krakout tunes to AY, and not just title tune....


Título: Re: Jack The Nipper and Krak-Out!
Publicado por: mäsäxi en 30 de Mayo de 2007, 02:20:10 pm
well... I guess good Krakout title tune is better than having straightforward spectrum Krakout title tune.. just heared it and it was something..... I don´t know if horrible is correct word for it.... it didn´t have anything to do with krakout theme....  :-\