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And now cheats for Guru Logic, the forbidden game, if you are a lucky owner of this game 

!cheats for blueMSX :guru logic msx1
!(c) 2005 Benoît Delvaux
0,49634,0,0,infinite time

!cheats for blueMSX :guru logic msx2
!(c) 2005 Benoît Delvaux
0,42636,17,0,infinite time

(corresponding address for openMSX : 0xC1E2 and 0xA68C)

Additionnal info, only for Karoshi : I'm preparing an update of MSX Valley with the complete walkthrough of both fan versions of Guru Logic and MP3 files for the MSX2 version !!!

Btw, that website that distributes the two games (do not remember the url right now), does not have the very last unreleased version of Guru Logic for MSX1: afaik is a private version with some goodies, who know if it can be somehow stolen and released!  ;)

Anyway, what was that site's URL?. Can't find it in my historial...  :-\

http://www.geocities.com/guru_logic/

I guess which are the improvements in the unreleased version, as some stages are impossible in the released version (or maybe it's my fault ) ... but we know the passwords of course  ;D

I heard something about some added graphics... but don't really know  ;)

Hum!

Impossible stages? I thought that they were fixed. Remember that there was one version with some bugs and then another *FIXED* version was published. But again, maybe some bugs were still there.

And there is a third version, never published, with some improvements and MORE stages (240 instead of only 180).

By the way, if you need more time, there is an Easter Egg: try to use the password "CAROLINE". I know, I know... Don't say a word about it  ::)

Thanks, Robsy, for the tip !  I want now to try to resolve the last 33 stages !  :)

What is amazing with this game is the fact that you must always change your way of thinking : in some cases, there's a simple solution when you are searching for a complex solution (in French, it's "chercher midi à quatorze heures'' ;D) and in other cases, the solution is really complex and requires a lot of patience ... with infinite time, it's of course a little easier !

Woaw ! 240 stages in stead of 180 ! I guess that you've used data compression ....

All of them used compression, but I slightly changed the algorythm so that it was more efficient.

I've tried the password 'CAROLINE', it works only in the first released version, you have probably deleted it in the second released version (with changes of passwords).

To access directly to the levels, I have now found another cheat :

!cheats for blueMSX :guru logic msx1
!(c) 2005 Benoît Delvaux
0,49634,0,0,infinite time
0,49650,0,0,level (0-17)

In the last cheat, the value 0 can be replaced by a value between 0 and 17; so, you can access to one of the 18 levels without using a password.

(corresponding address for openMSX : 0xC1E2 and 0xC1F2)

I have checked the last and not published GURU LOGIC version, and the Caroline password works great. And it has 250 levels instead of 240. RLE compression seemed to do the trick.

Wow, 240 stages, what a challenge!  :D

240 stages???? :o :o :o

THIS is a CHALLENGE !!  ;)

KNM
To be or....

Btw, I've downloaded lately the MSX1 version (never got before a chance to get it...) :-X and I must say that it's superb!. I love the concept!. I'm not a fan of puzzle games; but lately I'm enjoying a very good ones!  :D

Nice "hidden text" format  ;D

The pages on MSX Valley about Guru Logic are in progress .... I've made now all the screnshots and their conversion in the PNG format :)

About impossible stages : well, there's only one impossible stage, it's stage 7 in level 11

(http://msxvalley.msxblue.com/gurulogic1/logic107.png)

It seems me evident that this stage is impossible !  :'(

I've succeed to resolve almost all the other stages (I've skipped only 4 or 5, I'll try them again later).

As I was curious to know if there was a final demo after level 18, it took me 3 days to solve all the stages of this level : one thing is sure, even if it seems impossible, you must try another tricks to get the solution !  :D

But ... there's no final demo, only a black screen after level 18 .... maybe it's different in the unreleased third version with 250 stages ???

I presume that the good version of stage 7 in level 11 must be something like that :

(http://msxvalley.msxblue.com/gurulogic1/logic107b.png)

I have also some difficulties to resolve stage 3 in level 8, I can place correctly only 28 bricks :

(http://msxvalley.msxblue.com/gurulogic1/logic073.png)

UPDATE : BiFi has succeed to finish this stage, so I should try it again !

There's another stage for which I don't have found the complete solution : it's stage 8 in level 17

Maybe someone has an idea ???

(http://msxvalley.msxblue.com/gurulogic1/logic168.png)

UPDATE : BiFi has succeed to finish this stage, so I should try it again !

hmm. I'm not very happy with that geocities site.
I don't know the creator, but hoping he's reading this, i'm asking to put my version offline. It's not meant for public anymore.

I don't know the creator of the site too, but if the author claims his creation not to be distributed in a certain site, the one hosting the game must quit its distribution. So if the hoster of the game is reading this lines, I hope your version to be offline from that site soon. Btw, welcome to the forums chaos!  ;)

Finally, the complete cheat for Guru Logic MSX2 version !  :)

It was not evident to find the cheats for selecting the level, I had to use both the blueMSX debugger and WinHex !!!

!cheats for blueMSX :guru logic msx2
!(c) 2006 Benoît Delvaux
0,42636,17,0,infinite time
0,39877,0,0,level (0-4)
0,52224,0,0,level (0-4)

Addresses for openMSX : A68C, 9BC5, CC00